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		<description><![CDATA[**Ok, so I usually re-post this every year around this time. As usual, it&#8217;s just my opinion so don&#8217;t stone me. :-) We decided last year that we wouldn&#8217;t do the Santa Claus thing with our kids. That doesn&#8217;t mean that we just say &#8220;santa isn&#8217;t real&#8221;. No, we just decided to handle it a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>**Ok, so I usually re-post this every year around this time.  As usual, it&#8217;s just my opinion so don&#8217;t stone me. :-)</p>
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<p><img align="left" src="/images/stnick.jpg" alt="St. Nicholas"/> We decided last year that we wouldn&#8217;t <i>do</i> the Santa Claus thing with our kids.  That doesn&#8217;t mean that we just say &#8220;santa isn&#8217;t real&#8221;.  No, we just decided to handle it a little bit differently.  We tell our kids the true history of <a href="http://www.stnicholascenter.org/Brix?pageID=38">St. Nicholas</a> and that he used to be a real person and we commemorate his kind acts of Christian charity today as a Christmas tradition.  We are very careful to tell them that some people like to have fun with the idea of Santa Claus and act like the presents come from him, so they shouldn&#8217;t spoil it for other kids.  But what&#8217;s our motivation for this in the first place?  Well, there are several.</p>
<p>First, it&#8217;s the truth.  I&#8217;ve heard all the arguments for and against pretending that Santa Claus is real.  I&#8217;m just not compelled by them enough to <i>trick</i> my kids.  I want them to have total faith in what I tell them; that it&#8217;s the truth, as fully and complete as I know it to be.  When kids finally do find out that Santa isn&#8217;t real, it is usually from other kids.  I remember when I found out that Santa wasn&#8217;t real in the lunchroom at school back in the 3rd grade.  I was so embarrassed.  I remember a couple of bullies, Anthony and Brian making fun of me for &#8220;still believing in Santa Claus&#8221; and the other kids at the table laughing at me.  A child&#8217;s self-esteem is so fragile and I don&#8217;t want them to feel like I tricked them, and that&#8217;s what got them embarrassed in front of their friends.</p>
<p>Second, I want them to know that their presents came from us.  Maybe it&#8217;s a little selfish, but I want them to know right now that we care about the things they like and that it&#8217;s we who love them and know just what to get for them.  I don&#8217;t want that love and care to be laid at the feet of some made up character who doesn&#8217;t exist.  Kids get lots of gifts during the holidays and if you&#8217;re not careful, Christmas will be over and they have gotten lots of gifts from lots of people, but the gifts they should be getting from their parents are instead coming from Santa Claus.</p>
<p>Thirdly and most importantly, to a child, Santa Claus and other fictional holiday characters are just too similar to the secular view of God for my taste.  On one hand you have Santa Claus whom you never see but he evidently knows everything about you and keeps up with whether you are being good or bad.  He gives you good presents if you&#8217;re good and bad presents if you&#8217;re bad.  He loves you and brings you toys (which God doesn&#8217;t even do).  And Mommy and Daddy tell you all these stories about him and how he is real even though you never see him.  My question is what in a child&#8217;s mind makes that any different than God?  If Mommy and Daddy lied to me about this person who I can&#8217;t see but who loves me nonetheless, why should I believe them when they tell me that we can&#8217;t see God but he sure does love me?</p>
<p>If you think that&#8217;s far fetched then just read <a href="http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23378895-details/&#8217;Santa+Claus+does+not+exist&#8217;+school+tells+stunned+kids/article.do">this article</a> about some teachers in the UK who told their students that Santa Claus was not real, and then read the very first reader comment in the feedback section:</p>
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&#8220;I think next they should start going to funeral homes and telling the loved ones of the recently deceased that there is no Heaven or afterlife and that their loved one will just rot in the ground and they&#8217;ll never see them again. This would be especially good to do to any small children who lose a parent.&#8221;</p>
<p><cite>- Peter, Houston TX</cite>
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<p>The fact that Peter from Houston associates Santa Claus as being the same as Heaven and Hell proves my point.  The secular world today lumps Christ in right alongside Santa, the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny.  I see no reason to give them extra ammo with my kids.</p>
<p>Now for the disclaimers: I Dave Jones, being of semi-sound mind and unsound body do willingly acknowledge the following:</p>
<ul>
<li>Millions of people believed in Santa Claus as kids and were not made fun of when they found out.</li>
<li>Millions of people believed in Santa Claus as kids and did not lose their belief in God.</li>
<li>Millions of people believed in Santa Claus as kids and still knew their parents loved them.</li>
</ul>
<p>That is why we don&#8217;t get all preachy about it with other parents.  As far as I&#8217;m concerned, issues like this should be decided by each parent based on what they think is best for their children.  It doesn&#8217;t bother me one bit when a parent tells their kid that Santa Claus does exist.  But my conscience won&#8217;t let me tell that to my own kids, because my mind tells me they might not handle it as well as other kids.  If you want to say that I&#8217;m an insane, overprotective, right-wing, puritan worshipper as a dad, then you would probably be right.  As a dad, it&#8217;s my job to be overprotective and to worry.  That&#8217;s what dads do.  But I also think my points make good sense, and reason should always accompany concern as a parent&#8217;s guide.</p>
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		<title>Re-Post:  Just Who Exactly Is This Santa Guy&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[*This is a re-post of a blog post my wife did in a previous year. A couple of years back, my husband and I decided against telling our kids Santa was real. Our kids are fine, no one cried, and no one has had a lame Christmas. And none of their friends have suddenly shunned [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*This is a <a href="/just-who-exactly-is-this-santa-guy/">re-post</a> of a blog post my wife did in a previous year.</p>
<p><img align="left" src="/images/stnick.jpg" alt="Santa Claus"/> A couple of years back, my husband and I <a href="/why-we-dont-do-santa-claus/">decided against</a> telling our kids Santa was real. Our kids are fine, no one cried, and no one has had a lame Christmas. And none of their friends have suddenly shunned Santa. They know to politely answer questions about Santa and presents and reindeer.</p>
<p>One of the reasons we choose this comes from a deep desire to be honest with our children. They know St. Nicholas was a nice man from long ago, but we don&#8217;t teach that he is immortal or all-knowing. It is a small attempt to have our kids view us credible in our word. Here&#8217;s why that&#8217;s important.  When you strip away the &#8220;fun&#8221; side of Santa, you are left with a man who is omniscient, immortal, and able to judge good and evil. Now who does that remind you of?</p>
<p>In my view, Christmas, and therefore the gifts we exchange should be a symbol of sacrificial love for one another. We encourage our kids to buy gifts with their own money that they earn. They realize they won&#8217;t get that Lego set they wanted, but they are so excited about what they are giving. My daughter likes to tell her younger brother, &#8220;You are getting the best present in the world!&#8221; She is talking about the one she bought for him. And he will say the same back. They know that they will not get everything they imagine, because there is no inexhaustible magic sack that all too easily fulfills their whims.</p>
<p>But they know a little more about Christ&#8217;s love shown by sacrifice. They know that gifts are not dependent on artificial good deeds. I don&#8217;t want my children to be good because they can get something. That has nothing to do with truth or training the selfish heart of the child. Or even more, I don&#8217;t want some goodness standard interfering with God&#8217;s view of our works apart from Him, which are filthy rags. Goodness is not a matter of ceasing a behavior. It is Christ laying His righteousness on us. Being good for spiritual insurance is so pervasive in our culture already. I don&#8217;t want to accentuate &#8220;righteousness by works&#8221; during Christmas.</p>
<p>We want to give a clear view of Christ. That His gift is free to anyone who believes. His love is not based how good we are. What happens if they compare themselves with other kids who get more? &#8220;Is that kid a better person than I? What more can I do, so I can get?&#8221; I don&#8217;t want to build on that philosophy any more than is natural to human nature. Instead, I want Christ to be center, and Santa Claus, in my humble view, is a thorn that grows up and chokes the truth of Christ in the minds of our depraved little ones.</p>
<p>How can Christ  be pondered if their minds are in constant re-visitation to the myth and superstition of Santa Claus?  One common argument is &#8220;Oh, come on. It&#8217;s just for fun!&#8221; Let me assure you, there is no shortage of fun in my house around Christmas. But it is a more humbled fun. We can focus on being together and working together. Sacrifice resonates in our minds and conversations as we make gingerbread houses together and recall the gifts we are going to give. My hope is, in this small way, we are a little better aware of our position before God and our fellow laborers, our children.</p>
<p><cite style="font-size:10px;">&#8211;My Wife, Guest Blogging</cite></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img align="left" src="/images/stnick.jpg" alt="Santa Claus"/> A couple of years back, my husband and I <a href="/religion/santa_claus.wprss">decided against</a> telling our kids Santa was real. Our kids are fine, no one cried, and no one has had a lame Christmas. And none of their friends have suddenly shunned Santa. They know to politely answer questions about Santa and presents and reindeer.</p>
<p>One of the reasons we choose this comes from a deep desire to be honest with our children. They know St. Nicholas was a nice man from long ago, but we don&#8217;t teach that he is immortal or all-knowing. It is a small attempt to have our kids view us credible in our word. Here&#8217;s why that&#8217;s important.  When you strip away the &#8220;fun&#8221; side of Santa, you are left with a man who is omniscient, immortal, and able to judge good and evil. Now who does that remind you of?</p>
<p>In my view, Christmas, and therefore the gifts we exchange should be a symbol of sacrificial love for one another. We encourage our kids to buy gifts with their own money that they earn. They realize they won&#8217;t get that Lego set they wanted, but they are so excited about what they are giving. My daughter likes to tell her younger brother, &#8220;You are getting the best present in the world!&#8221; She is talking about the one she bought for him. And he will say the same back. They know that they will not get everything they imagine, because there is no inexhaustible magic sack that all too easily fulfills their whims.</p>
<p>But they know a little more about Christ&#8217;s love shown by sacrifice. They know that gifts are not dependent on artificial good deeds. I don&#8217;t want my children to be good because they can get something. That has nothing to do with truth or training the selfish heart of the child. Or even more, I don&#8217;t want some goodness standard interfering with God&#8217;s view of our works apart from Him, which are filthy rags. Goodness is not a matter of ceasing a behavior. It is Christ laying His righteousness on us. Being good for spiritual insurance is so pervasive in our culture already. I don&#8217;t want to accentuate &#8220;righteousness by works&#8221; during Christmas.</p>
<p>We want to give a clear view of Christ. That His gift is free to anyone who believes. His love is not based how good we are. What happens if they compare themselves with other kids who get more? &#8220;Is that kid a better person than I? What more can I do, so I can get?&#8221; I don&#8217;t want to build on that philosophy any more than is natural to human nature. Instead, I want Christ to be center, and Santa Claus, in my humble view, is a thorn that grows up and chokes the truth of Christ in the minds of our depraved little ones.</p>
<p>How can Christ  be pondered if their minds are in constant re-visitation to the myth and superstition of Santa Claus?  One common argument is &#8220;Oh, come on. It&#8217;s just for fun!&#8221; Let me assure you, there is no shortage of fun in my house around Christmas. But it is a more humbled fun. We can focus on being together and working together. Sacrifice resonates in our minds and conversations as we make gingerbread houses together and recall the gifts we are going to give. My hope is, in this small way, we are a little better aware of our position before God and our fellow laborers, our children.</p>
<p><cite style="font-size:10px;">&#8211;My Wife, Guest Blogging</cite></p>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>
<img align="left" src="/images/stnick.jpg" alt="St. Nicholas"/> We decided last year that we wouldn&#8217;t <i>do</i> the Santa Claus thing with our kids.  That doesn&#8217;t mean that we just say &#8220;santa isn&#8217;t real&#8221;.  No, we just decided to handle it a little bit differently.  We tell our kids the true history of <a href="http://www.stnicholascenter.org/Brix?pageID=38">St. Nicholas</a> and that he used to be a real person and we commemorate his kind acts of Christian charity today as a Christmas tradition.  We are very careful to tell them that some people like to have fun with the idea of Santa Claus and act like the presents come from him, so they shouldn&#8217;t spoil it for other kids.  But what&#8217;s our motivation for this in the first place?  Well, there are several.</p>
<p>First, it&#8217;s the truth.  I&#8217;ve heard all the arguments for and against pretending that Santa Claus is real.  I&#8217;m just not compelled by them enough to <i>trick</i> my kids.  I want them to have total faith in what I tell them; that it&#8217;s the truth, as fully and complete as I know it to be.  When kids finally do find out that Santa isn&#8217;t real, it is usually from other kids.  I remember when I found out that Santa wasn&#8217;t real in the lunchroom at school back in the 3rd grade.  I was so embarrassed.  I remember a couple of bullies, Anthony and Brian making fun of me for &#8220;still believing in Santa Claus&#8221; and the other kids at the table laughing at me.  A child&#8217;s self-esteem is so fragile and I don&#8217;t want them to feel like I tricked them, and that&#8217;s what got them embarrassed in front of their friends.</p>
<p>Second, I want them to know that there presents came from us.  Maybe it&#8217;s a little selfish, but I want them to know right now that we care about the things they like and that it&#8217;s we who love them and know just what to get for them.  I don&#8217;t want that love and care to be laid at the feet of some made up character who doesn&#8217;t exist.  Kids get lots of gifts during the holidays and if you&#8217;re not careful, Christmas will be over and they have gotten lots of gifts from lots of people, but the gifts they get should be getting from their parents are instead coming from Santa Claus.</p>
<p>Thirdly and most importantly, to a child, Santa Claus and other fictional holiday characters are just too similar to the secular view of God for my taste.  On one hand you have Santa Claus whom you never see but he evidently knows everything about you and keeps up with whether you are being good or bad.  He gives you good presents if you&#8217;re good and bad presents if you&#8217;re bad.  He loves you and brings you toys (which God doesn&#8217;t even do).  And Mommy and Daddy tell you all these stories about him and how he is real even though you never see him.  My question is what in a child&#8217;s mind makes that any different than God?  If Mommy and Daddy lied to me about this person who I can&#8217;t see but who loves me nonetheless, why should I believe them when they tell me that we can&#8217;t see God but he sure does love me?</p>
<p>If you think that&#8217;s far fetched then just read <a href="http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23378895-details/&#8217;Santa+Claus+does+not+exist&#8217;+school+tells+stunned+kids/article.do">this article</a> about some teachers in the UK who told their students that Santa Claus was not real, and then read the very first reader comment in the feedback section:</p>
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<p>&#8220;I think next they should start going to funeral homes and telling the loved ones of the recently deceased that there is no Heaven or afterlife and that their loved one will just rot in the ground and they&#8217;ll never see them again. This would be especially good to do to any small children who lose a parent.&#8221;</p>
<p><cite>- Peter, Houston TX</cite></p>
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<p>The fact that Peter from Houston associates Santa Claus as being the same as Heaven and Hell proves my point.  The secular world today lumps Christ in right alongside Santa, the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny.  I see no reason to give them extra ammo with my kids.</p>
<p>Now for the disclaimers: I Dave Jones, being of semi-sound mind and unsound body do willingly acknowledge the following:</p>
<ul>
<li>Millions of people believed in Santa Claus as kids and were not made fun of when they found out.</li>
<li>Millions of people believed in Santa Claus as kids and did not lose their belief in God.</li>
<li>Millions of people believed in Santa Claus as kids and still knew their parents loved them.</li>
</ul>
<p>That is why we don&#8217;t get all preachy about it with other parents.  As far as I&#8217;m concerned, issues like this should be decided by each parent based on what they think is best for their children.  It doesn&#8217;t bother me one bit when a parent tells their kid that Santa Claus does exist.  But my conscience won&#8217;t let me tell that to my own kids, because my mind tells me they might not handle it as well as other kids.  If you want to say that I&#8217;m an insane, overprotective, right-wing, puritan worshipper as a dad, then you would probably be right.  As a dad, it&#8217;s my job to be overprotective and to worry.  That&#8217;s what dads do.  But I also think my points make good sense, and reason should always accompany concern as a parent&#8217;s guide.</p>
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