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		<title>The Current State of Economic/Apologetic Literacy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just got back from the EPS conference last night. We had a great time and learned a lot. It was held in New Orleans, LA and hosted by the New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary. I had never been there so it was a neat experience to see the campus. It looks like a nice [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got back from the EPS conference last night.  We had a great time and learned a lot.  It was held in New Orleans, LA and hosted by the New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary.  I had never been there so it was a neat experience to see the campus.  It looks like a nice place.</p>
<p>All in all, I would say that the speakers were excellent.  We only had one bad lecture and it was from Doug Geivett.  I don&#8217;t want to desparage Dr. Geivett as an apologist in any way, but his particular talk was on the verge of horrible.  It was rambling, way off-topic and, most disturbingly, exposed a severe lack of understanding of economics.  His basic premise(when he finally got to it) was that when the country is made up of traditional families, that somehow makes our economic outlook better.  He attributed this to &#8220;long term vision&#8221; that is natural in a traditional family(i.e., mom, dad, kids, no divorce, etc.).  This is woefully simplistic and just shows a non-familiarity with basic economics.</p>
<p>Now, don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;m all for mom, dad, kids, no divorce, etc.  I think that&#8217;s the ideal situation that all families should strive for.  My beef is with saying that this is a driving factor in economic stability.  He actually blamed the housing bubble/recession on a lack of family values.  If that was the case then think about this.  The 1920&#8242;s &#8211; 1940&#8242;s was probably the era of the most widespread traditional family values the country has ever seen.  And yet we had the Great Depression.  It doesn&#8217;t matter what type of families dominate the landscape.  If the government comes in and rapes the economy then it&#8217;s going to cause economic problems.  Bad ones.</p>
<p>Anyway, I was just disappointed to see such a lack of economic understanding in the upper ranks of Christian Philosophy and Apologetics circles.  It would do Biola/Talbot a lot of good to hook up with The Mises Institute and bring some basic economics into their catalog.</p>


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		<title>Early Non-Christian Sources as Verification?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Greg Koukl makes some really good points here. One thing is that we, as Christians, shouldn&#8217;t bear some unnecessary burden of proof when the premise of the question is flawed to begin with. You end up just chasing your tail. Their really is no reason why you shouldn&#8217;t go to Christian sources for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Greg Koukl makes some really good points here.  One thing is that we, as Christians, shouldn&#8217;t bear some unnecessary burden of proof when the premise of the question is flawed to begin with.  You end up just chasing your tail.  Their really is no reason why you shouldn&#8217;t go to Christian sources for the definitive answer on what early Christians actually believed about the deity of Christ.  That requirement is just made up and forced into the argument.  It&#8217;s like asking George Bush what Barack Obama believes.  Why not just ask him?</p>
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		<title>Just Who Exactly is This Santa Guy&#8230;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple of years back, my husband and I decided against telling our kids Santa was real. Our kids are fine, no one cried, and no one has had a lame Christmas. And none of their friends have suddenly shunned Santa. They know to politely answer questions about Santa and presents and reindeer. One of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img align="left" src="/images/stnick.jpg" alt="Santa Claus"/> A couple of years back, my husband and I <a href="/religion/santa_claus.wprss">decided against</a> telling our kids Santa was real. Our kids are fine, no one cried, and no one has had a lame Christmas. And none of their friends have suddenly shunned Santa. They know to politely answer questions about Santa and presents and reindeer.</p>
<p>One of the reasons we choose this comes from a deep desire to be honest with our children. They know St. Nicholas was a nice man from long ago, but we don&#8217;t teach that he is immortal or all-knowing. It is a small attempt to have our kids view us credible in our word. Here&#8217;s why that&#8217;s important.  When you strip away the &#8220;fun&#8221; side of Santa, you are left with a man who is omniscient, immortal, and able to judge good and evil. Now who does that remind you of?</p>
<p>In my view, Christmas, and therefore the gifts we exchange should be a symbol of sacrificial love for one another. We encourage our kids to buy gifts with their own money that they earn. They realize they won&#8217;t get that Lego set they wanted, but they are so excited about what they are giving. My daughter likes to tell her younger brother, &#8220;You are getting the best present in the world!&#8221; She is talking about the one she bought for him. And he will say the same back. They know that they will not get everything they imagine, because there is no inexhaustible magic sack that all too easily fulfills their whims.</p>
<p>But they know a little more about Christ&#8217;s love shown by sacrifice. They know that gifts are not dependent on artificial good deeds. I don&#8217;t want my children to be good because they can get something. That has nothing to do with truth or training the selfish heart of the child. Or even more, I don&#8217;t want some goodness standard interfering with God&#8217;s view of our works apart from Him, which are filthy rags. Goodness is not a matter of ceasing a behavior. It is Christ laying His righteousness on us. Being good for spiritual insurance is so pervasive in our culture already. I don&#8217;t want to accentuate &#8220;righteousness by works&#8221; during Christmas.</p>
<p>We want to give a clear view of Christ. That His gift is free to anyone who believes. His love is not based how good we are. What happens if they compare themselves with other kids who get more? &#8220;Is that kid a better person than I? What more can I do, so I can get?&#8221; I don&#8217;t want to build on that philosophy any more than is natural to human nature. Instead, I want Christ to be center, and Santa Claus, in my humble view, is a thorn that grows up and chokes the truth of Christ in the minds of our depraved little ones.</p>
<p>How can Christ  be pondered if their minds are in constant re-visitation to the myth and superstition of Santa Claus?  One common argument is &#8220;Oh, come on. It&#8217;s just for fun!&#8221; Let me assure you, there is no shortage of fun in my house around Christmas. But it is a more humbled fun. We can focus on being together and working together. Sacrifice resonates in our minds and conversations as we make gingerbread houses together and recall the gifts we are going to give. My hope is, in this small way, we are a little better aware of our position before God and our fellow laborers, our children.</p>
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		<title>Douglas Preston &#8211; Blasphemy &#8211; Part 1</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just finished reading Douglas Preston&#8217;s book Blasphemy. I&#8217;m a big fan of Preston&#8217;s works. They are mostly thrillers, and are known for their thorough background research in the more technical sections. This book, while still holding to much of Preston&#8217;s formula, departs from his norm by vearing into the world of metaphysics, religion and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="embedleftpic" src="/images/preston.jpg" /> I just finished reading Douglas Preston&#8217;s book <i>Blasphemy</i>.  I&#8217;m a big fan of Preston&#8217;s works.  They are mostly thrillers, and are known for their thorough background research in the more technical sections.  This book, while still holding to much of Preston&#8217;s formula, departs from his norm by vearing into the world of metaphysics, religion and ethics.  In a way, this is new ground for him.  At least in print.  He has dabbled in the Pendergast novels with Eastern religions, but this type of metaphysical tour de force is out of the ordinary for him.  So how does his treatment of these areas compare to his highly acclaimed technical research?  I would say poorly.  And believe me.  I&#8217;m being kind.</p>
<p>I will not give you a story synopsis.  You can read it <a href="http://www.bloggingauthors.com/2008/02/04/book-review-blasphemy-by-douglas-preston/">here</a> if you want.  I&#8217;m more interested in the ideas.  The book can be best described as a novelized Cristopher Hitchens lecture.  Take everything you know about the neo-atheist movement&#8217;s talking points and you will find them romanticized in this book.  It&#8217;s so bad (for lack of a better term) that the book was hard to listen to in spots.  It&#8217;s not just that &#8220;religion&#8221;(read, Christianity) is worthless or irrelevant, it&#8217;s that it&#8217;s evil and should be eradicated.  That&#8217;s the tone throughout the entire work.  That&#8217;s what makes it Hitchens-esque.  So just what is so poorly handled in the book?  Let me give you the high points.</p>
<p>Firstly, the idea that the big-bang is totally incompatible with creation theory permeates the book.  This is something that has troubled me for quite a while now.  There is a concerted effort on the part of the physics elite to baptize the big-bang back into the fold of atheism.  And to a large degree, they are being successful at it.  But the history of the big bang is wrought with hostility from the atheist camp.  The big-bang/expanding universe idea was, from it&#8217;s inception, viewed as a threat to the uniformitarian view of natural science.  Just look at what the big bang is.  It says, in effect, that the universe exploded into existence from nothing at a fixed point of time in history.  This fixed point of space-time is known commonly as a &#8220;singularity&#8221;.  The threat to natural science was always that &#8220;something from nothing&#8221; is inexplainable apart from an outside creative force(or God).  Take these references from Wikipedia:</p>
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<p>Nobel Prize physicist Hannes Alfven considered the Big Bang to be a scientific myth devised to explain creation.[57] He held that &#8220;There is no rational reason to doubt that the universe has existed indefinitely, for an infinite time. It is only myth that attempts to say how the universe came to be, either four thousand or twenty billion years ago&#8221; [2]. Alfvén and colleagues proposed the Alfvén-Klein model as an alternative cosmological theory.</p>
<p>Other astronomers, such as Halton Arp or Sir Fred Hoyle, are also known for their rejection of the Big Bang theory. Hoyle, one of the most vocal critics of the theory, was also ironically responsible for coining the term &#8220;Big Bang&#8221;. The theory had previously been known as the &#8220;Dynamic Evolving Model&#8221;, but Hoyle referred to it as the &#8220;Big Bang&#8221; in a series of radio presentations on different scientific topics. Hoyle was also a co-creator the Steady State theory, which was meant as an alternative to the Big Bang, along with fellow scientists Hermann Bondi and Thomas Gold.</p>
<p>The Big Bang is a scientific theory, and as such stands or falls by its agreement with observations. But as a theory which addresses, or at least seems to address, the origins of reality, it has always been entangled with theological and philosophical implications. In the 1920s and &#8217;30s almost every major cosmologist preferred an eternal universe, and several complained that the beginning of time implied by the Big Bang imported religious concepts into physics; this objection was later repeated by supporters of the steady state theory.[60] This perception was enhanced by the fact that Georges Lemaître, who put the theory forth, was a Roman Catholic priest.</p>
<p><cite><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang#Criticism_of_the_theory">&#8211;Wikipedia, Big Bang</a></cite></p>
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<p>Much time and effort was spent on the part of naturalists to disprove the big bang, and consequently, the expanding universe.  But now that it&#8217;s truth is virtually undeniable, it&#8217;s time for physics to bring it into the fold and sweep the sordid past under the rug.  And Preston does his best to run with that notion in <i>Blasphemy</i>.  One of the characters actually said that Stephen Hawking had proved, through his equations, how the universe could spring into being from nothing.  This is either wishful thinking on Preston&#8217;s part, or intentional mis-information.  Hawking has done nothing of the sort.  Now, I&#8217;m no physicist, but I do know how to read, and I can understand a well-explained argument.  Read Hawking&#8217;s words for yourself:</p>
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<p>&#8220;Only if we could picture the universe in terms of imaginary time would there be no singularities . . . . When one goes back to the real time in which we live, however, there will still appear to be singularities.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m a positivist . . . I don&#8217;t demand that a theory correspond to reality because I don&#8217;t know what it is.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I take the positivist viewpoint that a physical theory is just a mathematical model and that it is meaningless to ask whether it corresponds to reality.&#8221;</p>
<p><cite><a href="http://www.leaderu.com/offices/billcraig/docs/ultimatequestion.html">&#8211;Craig, The Ultimate Question of Origins</a></cite></p>
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<p>Hawking&#8217;s theories of the universe appearing without cause out of nothingness depend on using what he calls &#8220;imaginary time&#8221;.  He freely admits that his model doesn&#8217;t obtain if calculated with real time values.  But then again, that doesn&#8217;t concern him.  He doesn&#8217;t know what reality is anyway, according to his quote.  So, it seems to me, at best, we can say that Hawking&#8217;s theory (known generally as a Quantum Gravity Model) is a mathematical exercise.  Claiming that it proves the universe could come out of nothingness is going way, way out on a limb.  It&#8217;s just not justified in any way.  If Hawking&#8217;s model proves the possibility of <i>ex nihilo</i> creation without a creator, then Rudyard Kipling&#8217;s model proves how the leopard got it&#8217;s spots.</p>
<p>This is the first exception I take with the book.  I&#8217;ll explore others in later posts.</p>


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		<title>Mere Agnosticism &#8211; Part V (Teleology)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Teleology is the philosophy of design or purpose in the natural world. It&#8217;s a belief that the natural order, and the individual organisms within it are designed for a certain purpose or use. Theists and atheists alike live according to an underlying assumption of teleology whether they acknowledge it or not. I talk a lot [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teleology is the philosophy of design or purpose in the natural world.  It&#8217;s a belief that the natural order, and the individual organisms within it are designed for a certain purpose or use.  Theists and atheists alike live according to an underlying assumption of teleology whether they acknowledge it or not.  I talk a lot about the validity of intuitional truth on this blog, and teleology would generally fall into that category.  To get a better understanding of what it&#8217;s all about, take this quote from <i>The Pilgrim&#8217;s Regress</i>:</p>
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Every day a jailor brought the prisoners their food, and as he laid down the dishes he would say a word to them. If their meal was flesh he would remind them that they were eating corpses, or give them some account of the slaughtering: or, if it was the inwards of some beast, he would read them a lecture in anatomy and show the likeness of the mess to the same parts in themselves -which was the more easily done because the giant&#8217;s eyes were always staring into the dungeon at dinner time. Or if the meal were eggs he would recall to them that they were eating the menstruum of a verminous fowl, and crack a few jokes with the female prisoner. So he went on day by day. Then I dreamed that one day there was nothing but milk for them, and the jailor said as he put down the pipkin:</p>
<p>&#8217;Our relations with the cow are not delicate -as you can easily see if you imagine eating any of her other secretions.&#8217;</p>
<p>Now John had been in the pit a shorter time than any of the others and at these words something seemed to snap in his head and he gave a great sigh and suddenly spoke out in a loud, clear voice:</p>
<p>&#8217;Thank heaven! Now at last I know that you are talking nonsense.&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8217;What do you mean?&#8217; said the jailor, wheeling round upon him.</p>
<p>&#8217;You are trying to pretend that unlike things are like. You are trying to make us think that milk is the same sort of thing as sweat or dung.&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8217;And pray, what difference is there except by custom?&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8217;Are you a liar or only a fool, that you see no difference between that which Nature casts out as refuse and that which she stores up as food?&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8217;So Nature is a person, then, with purposes and consciousness,&#8217; said the jailor with a sneer, &#8217;In fact, a Landlady. No doubt it comforts you to imagine you can believe that sort of thing:&#8217; and he turned to leave the prison with his nose in the air.</p>
<p>&#8217;I know nothing about that,&#8217; shouted John after him. &#8217;I am talking of what happens. Milk does feed calves and dung does not.&#8217;</p>
<p><cite>&#8211;CS Lewis, The Pilgrim&#8217;s Regress</cite></p>
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<p>It&#8217;s readily obvious when we look at the natural world that it&#8217;s particulars are meant for certain applications or activities.  Like the character John says, &#8220;Milk does feed calves and dung does not.&#8221;  Now this concept is an important one that regresses to greater ideas like intelligent design.  It&#8217;s also a crucial point of connecting the material world with religious ideas.  Indeed, this might be the crux of where the physical meets the metaphysical in human understanding.</p>
<p>Take homosexuality for example.  The reason for rejecting it amongst religious and non-religious alike is a belief that it is &#8220;against nature&#8221; in some way.  That phrase is tossed out a lot, and it simply means that engaging in homosexual acts is an abuse of the way the body was designed to work.  Sex is a proper use of the body as it&#8217;s designed, but homosexuality is a use of the body in a way that violates it&#8217;s <i>obvious</i> design.  It&#8217;s akin to feeding your calves dung instead of milk.  You can claim all day long that they are both just secretions of a cow, but in a few days you&#8217;ll have a dead calf on your hands.</p>
<p>In short, the anthropological application of teleology brings an undertone of morality with it.  It&#8217;s inescapable.  Any time you bring <i>oughtness</i> into the philosophical mix, it&#8217;s going to require a judgement of the violation of what <i>ought</i> to be.  That&#8217;s why I said earlier that teleology is the crux where physics and metaphysics meet.  It also marks a turning point in this series of posts where I am taking simply theistic arguments to something more concrete about who that theistic personality may be.</p>


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		<title>Book &#8211; Christian Literature: An Anthology</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 21:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A close friend gave me this book for Christmas last year and I have to say that I highly recommend it. It&#8217;s a survey of literature throughout church history that are either purely Christian or have in some way or another had a direct influence on the church. It&#8217;s edited by Alister McGrath, who is [...]]]></description>
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A close friend gave me this book for Christmas last year and I have to say that I highly recommend it.  It&#8217;s a survey of literature throughout church history that are either purely Christian or have in some way or another had a direct influence on the church.  It&#8217;s edited by Alister McGrath, who is Professor of Historical Theology at Oxford University.</p>
<p>His method is to introduce each literary work with a brief background about it&#8217;s author.  You can tell pretty quickly that his understanding of church history is very robust and he comes at it from a highly orthodox view.  This lends him a theological credibility that assures me that he is letting the author be who he was, rather than trying to &#8220;interperet&#8221; them into a modern form as is so often the case these days.</p>
<p style="clear:both;">The book is divided into five epochs as follows:</p>
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<li>The Patristic Period: Clement(96) &#8211; Fortunatus(530)</li>
<li>English and Irish Sources: Caedmon&#8217;s Hymn(670) &#8211; Wulfstan(1023)</li>
<li>The Middle Ages: Anselm(1033) &#8211; William Dunbar(1460)</li>
<li>Renaissance and Reformation: Erasmus(1469) &#8211; Book of Common Prayer(1662)</li>
<li>The Modern Period: Daniel Defoe(1660) &#8211; Garrison Keillor(-)</li>
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<p>This is one of those rare gems that should be in every Christian&#8217;s library.  Most of us can&#8217;t afford to have a book for each one of these works in our library and even if we did we probably wouldn&#8217;t have time to read them.  Yet we should all have a decent grasp of the major Christian writers in church history.  This book is the answer to that dillema.  Here is the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Christian-Literature-Anthology-Alister-McGrath/dp/0631216065/sr=8-1/qid=1163993167/ref=sr_1_1/103-5768106-0214225?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books">link to it</a> on Amazon.  It makes a great Christmas gift.</p>


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		<title>The Prime Directive</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you are a Trek nerd like me then you already know the &#8220;prime directive&#8221; by heart. But for those who are normal citizens or have social lives, I&#8217;ll give it to you straight from wikipedia: &#8220;In the fictional universe of Star Trek, the Prime Directive, Starfleet&#8217;s General Order #1, is the most prominent guiding [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are a Trek nerd like me then you already know the &#8220;prime directive&#8221; by heart.  But for those who are normal citizens or have social lives, I&#8217;ll give it to you straight from wikipedia:</p>
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<img class="embedleftpic" src="/images/starfleet.gif" alt="Starfleet Command" /><br />
&#8220;In the fictional universe of Star Trek, the Prime Directive, Starfleet&#8217;s General Order #1, is the most prominent guiding principle of the United Federation of Planets; The Prime Directive dictates that there be no interference with the natural development of any primitive society, chiefly meaning that no primitive culture can be given or exposed to any information regarding advanced technology or alien races. It also forbids any effort to improve or change in any way the natural course of such a society, even if that change is well-intentioned and kept completely secret. &#8217;Primitive&#8217; is defined as any culture which has not yet attained warp drive. Starfleet allows scientific missions to investigate and move amongst pre-warp civilizations as long as no advanced technology is left behind, and there is no interference with events or no revelation of their identity.&#8221;</p>
<p><cite>&#8211;wikipedia, Prime_Directive</cite></p>
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<p>Now take off your pointy ears for a second and put down your tri-corder.  If you look at the &#8220;prime directive&#8221; from the perspective of a philosopher, you will recognize it instantly as a souped up version of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_relativism">cultural relativism</a>.  Nothing new here, but the reason I bring it up is because of how it relates to the problem of evil.  The biggest stumbling block for many a non-believer is how a God could possibly exist, and yet let so much evil happen in the world.  But these same people will frequently nod there head in agreement with something like the &#8220;prime directive&#8221; where the more advanced society is obligated to stay out of the affairs of developing societies at all costs.  Indeed, some of the Star Trek writers themselves would probably quote the problem of evil to you in support of their atheism.</p>
<p>See the problem?  You can&#8217;t hold to cultural relativism, and at the same time put forth the problem of evil.  It&#8217;s a hypocrisy.  But there is also something else.  You could say that the &#8220;prime directive&#8221; is a nod to a sort of anthropological natural selection.  It&#8217;s a recognition of a perceieved force at work in social development, and that force is reckoned to ultimately be a good thing.  In a more general sense, it&#8217;s the thought that what&#8217;s best for a society comes from a pattern of non-interferance by outside forces.  For example, Soviet Russia collapsed mainly from the inside &#8211; the result of much pain and hardship on the part of it&#8217;s people.  And this was almost universally accepted as a good thing.</p>
<p>So silently, the fact that suffering, pain, hardship, etc. produces a unique fruit in the character of men and nations has been accepted in the minds of those that would hinge non-belief on the existance of evil.  The fruit is sometimes bad but often times it is a more good fruit than what comes from those societies that don&#8217;t suffer hardship.  It is a fact for instance that the Christian church expands and grows rapidly in those regions where it is most persecuted.  I&#8217;m not saying that this is the way I would argue against the problem of evil as a rule.  I&#8217;m just saying that this is one way it could be done in a society that has detente as one of it&#8217;s most noble ethics.</p>
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<p>*Note: Greg Koukl has another take on the prime directive in his article found <a href="http://www.str.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&#038;id=5706">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>To Neil Peart &#8211; Faith isn&#8217;t the Problem</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 13:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[While trying to get some info on the upcoming Rush album, I stumbled upon the following quote by their drummer Neil Peart. He is speaking about &#8220;faith&#8221; as the main theme of their upcoming album: &#8217;I tried hard to look at it as a subject &#8211; what&#8217;s good about it &#8211; and tried to balance [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While trying to get some info on the upcoming <a href="http://www.rush.com">Rush</a> album, I stumbled upon the following quote by their drummer Neil Peart.  He is speaking about &#8220;faith&#8221; as the main theme of their upcoming album:</p>
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<img class="embedleftpic" src="/images/neilpeart.jpg" alt="Neil Peart"/>&#8217;I tried hard to look at it as a subject &#8211; what&#8217;s good about it &#8211; and tried to balance that against what I saw as not being a good thing,&#8217; said Peart, noting his experience as a Canadian living in the United States for the past six years has given him a unique perspective on world events. &#8217;All we&#8217;re seeing, especially in the world today, is a very malevolent kind of faith, in fundamentalism of all kinds, on both sides. One of the lines I use in the new songs equates Middle East and Middle West, because this stuff is going on in both localities, although both would probably be insulted by the comparison.&#8221;<br />
<br/><br/><cite>&#8211;Neil Peart, Macleans.ca</cite></p>
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<p>I could go on and on about the problems I see with Peart&#8217;s worldview, but this statement was a little surprising even for him.  I have to wonder what he means by &#8220;this stuff is going on in both localities&#8221;.  What exactly is &#8220;this stuff&#8221;?  Nothing in my Christian faith gives me the slightest inclination to hate muslims.  I&#8217;ll tell you what does give me the inclination to hate muslims though:  when they chop American reporters and construction workers heads off.  But that has nothing to do with my faith.  If by &#8220;this stuff&#8221; he means &#8220;malevolent&#8221; faith then he is ignorant of the facts or just doesn&#8217;t want to see them.  Equating a faith that prays for muslims to change with a faith that sends peoples heads home in baskets for changing is naive.</p>
<p>But here again, I just don&#8217;t understand why he is trying to equate strife between east and west with Christianity vs. Islam.  When have we even heard Christianity mentioned in the whole middle eastern mess, except that time that the American state department stepped in to try and stop Afghanistan from executing a convert to Christianity.  I don&#8217;t remember any such reciprocal action ever being needed.When he says &#8220;both would probably be insulted by the comparison&#8221; he is right.  The difference is when the muslim mob in Europe and the middle-east get insulted they riot, kill cops, stab documentary film-makers to death in the street, blow up car bombs, etc.  When Christians get insulted we just take it on the chin like we have been for the last 2000 years.</p>
<p>He goes on:</p>
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<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t need it in my life, is the way I would put it,&#8221; Peart said of faith. &#8220;But I see other people who do and other people for whom it&#8217;s definitely a positive sort of reinforcement of a kind of solace and those are all good things.&#8221;</p>
<p><cite>&#8211;Neil Peart, Macleans.ca</cite></p>
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<p>Here we go again with the same old refrain that some people &#8220;need&#8221; religion to make them feel better.  Let&#8217;s see, what would make me feel better is polka-dotted fairies, so I think I&#8217;ll believe in them so I&#8217;ll indeed feel better.  Like anyone believes in something they know is false just to make themselves feel better.  That&#8217;s not just unadulterated arrogance.  It&#8217;s impossible.  You can&#8217;t believe in something you know is not true.  That&#8217;s not how the human mind works Neil.</p>
<p>I generally stay away from people who set themselves up a notch higher than everyone else, based on some intellectualism.  They are usually the biggest hypocrites you will meet.  Neil speaks of &#8220;malevolent&#8221; faith, as if the ultimate good is just to be happy and nice to everyone without actually &#8220;believing&#8221; in anything.  Yet, if you read his books, it becomes evident that he looks down his nose in judgement at half the population.  My advice to that kind of person is just to go on and live your life how you want, and leave the moral judgements to those that don&#8217;t think of themselves too highly.</p>


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		<title>Thinking Christians &#8211; Blaise Pascal</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pascal was a French scientist, mathematician, Christian apologist and philosopher who lived from 1623 to 1662.  He was a brilliant writer as well and is considered the father of French prose.  He was an ardent defender of the scientific method and rightly saw intuitional truths(that is, things that we know are universally true even if we can&#8217;t prove them) as a foundation for a proper use of it.  He was homeschooled by his father, who was a tax collector in France and developed what has become known as &#8220;Pascal&#8217;s Theorem&#8221; at the age of 16.  At 18 he built a mechanical calculator to help his father with work.  It only performed addition, but he later improved it and built a total of 50 throughout his life.</p>
<p>Here are some of his most notable scientific works/inventions:</p>
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<li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_theorem">Pascal&#8217;s Theorem</a></li>
<li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascaline">Calculator</a></li>
<li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_triangle">Pascal&#8217;s Triangle</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.classicallibrary.org/pascal/index.htm">Barometer</a></li>
<li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulic_press">Hydraulic Press</a></li>
<li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syringe">Syringe</a></li>
<li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_law">Pascal&#8217;s Law</a></li>
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<p>He made many other contributions to the sciences such as rightly theorizing that a vaccum existed above the atmosphere.  He made significant progress in mathematical probability theory with his colleague Pierre de Fermat.  Philosophically, he&#8217;s also well known for what has come to be called <a href="http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics/pascals-wager.htm">Pascal&#8217;s Wager</a>.  In that vein, he was a deeply committed Christian.  What was perhaps to become his most monumental written work, <i>Pensees</i>, was originally titled <i>Defense of the Christian Religion</i>.  Here are some good quotes from Pascal:</p>
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&#8220;Belief is a wise wager. Granted that faith cannot be proved, what harm will come to you if you gamble on its truth and it proves false? If you gain, you gain all; if you lose, you lose nothing. Wager, then, without hesitation, that He exists.&#8221;
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<p>&#8220;Even those who write against fame wish for the fame of having written well, and those who read their works desire the fame of having read them.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Faith certainly tells us what the senses do not, but not the contrary of what they see; it is above, not against them.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Jesus is the God whom we can approach without pride and before whom we can humble ourselves without despair.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Men despise religion. They hate it and are afraid it may be true.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Vanity of science. Knowledge of physical science will not console me for ignorance of morality in time of affliction, but knowledge of morality will always console me for ignorance of physical science.&#8221;</p>
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<p>And lest you think he was some sort of deist or something, the following was found written on a piece of cloth sewn inside his clothing after his death:</p>
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<p>Memorial</p>
<p>In the year of grace, 1654, On Monday, 23rd of November, Feast of St Clement, Pope and Martyr, and others in the Martyrology, Vigil of St Chrysogonus, Martyr, and others, From about half past ten in the evening until about half past twelve, Fire! God of Abraham, God of Isaac, God of Jacob, (Ex 3:6; Mt 22:32) not of the philosophers and scholars.</p>
<p>Certitude. Certitude. Feeling. Joy. Peace. God of Jesus Christ.  &#8220;Thy God and my God.&#8221; (Jn 20:17)  Forgetfulness of the world and of everything, except God.  He is to be found only in the ways taught in the Gospel.  Greatness of the Human Soul.  &#8220;Righteous Father, the world hath not known Thee, but I have known Thee.&#8221; (Jn 17:25)  Joy, joy, joy, tears of joy.  I have separated myself from Him.  &#8220;They have forsaken Me, the fountain of living waters.&#8221; (Jr 2:13)  &#8220;My God, wilt Thou leave me?&#8221; (Mt 27:46)  Let me not be separated from Him eternally.  &#8220;This is the eternal life, that they might know Thee, the only true God, and the one whom Thou hast sent, Jesus Christ.&#8221; (Jn 17:3)  Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>Jesus Christ</p>
<p>I have separated myself from Him:<br/><br />
I have fled from Him, denied Him, crucified Him.  Let me never be separated from Him.  We keep hold of Him only by the ways taught in the Gospel.  Renunciation, total and sweet.  Total submission to Jesus Christ and to my director.  Eternally in joy for a day&#8217;s training on earth.  &#8220;I will not forget thy words.&#8221; (Ps 119:16) Amen.</p>
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		<title>Thinking Christians &#8211; James Clerk Maxwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maxwell was a mathematician, philosopher and physicist who lived from 1831-1879. He developed a set of mathmatical formulas that every electrical engineer knows as &#8220;Maxwell&#8217;s Equations&#8221;. His work with electromagnetism is considered one of the greatest works of physics in the 19th century. His deductions about light were groundbreaking as well: &#8220;Maxwell&#8217;s quantitative explanation of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maxwell was a mathematician, philosopher and physicist who lived from 1831-1879.  He developed a set of mathmatical formulas that every electrical engineer knows as &#8220;Maxwell&#8217;s Equations&#8221;.  His work with electromagnetism is considered one of the greatest works of physics in the 19th century.  His deductions about light were groundbreaking as well:</p>
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<p>&#8220;Maxwell&#8217;s quantitative explanation of light as an electromagnetic wave is considered one of the great triumphs of 19th-century physics. (Actually, Michael Faraday had postulated a similar picture of light in 1846, but had not been able to give a quantitative description or predict the velocity.) Moreover, it laid the foundation for many future developments in physics, such as special relativity and its unification of electric and magnetic fields as a single tensor quantity.&#8221;</p>
<p><cite>&#8211;Wikipedia</cite></p>
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<p>Maxwell was homeschooled as a young boy by his mother.  His father was Presbyterian and his mother was Anglican.  His mother died when he was 8 years old.  His Christian faith only deepened as he went through his life.  Here are a few quotes that I found from him:</p>
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<img class="embedleftpic" src="/images/maxwell.jpg" alt="James Clerk Maxwell"/><br />
&#8220;I think that men of science as well as other men need to learn from Christ, and I think that Christians whose minds are scientific are bound to study science that this view of the glory of God may be as extensive as their being is capable of.&#8221;</p>
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&#8220;Happy is the man who can recognize in the work of Today a connected portion of the work of life, and an embodiment of the work of Eternity.&#8221;
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&#8220;The more we enter into Christ&#8217;s work He will have more room to work His work in us. For He always desires us to be one with us. Our worship is social, and Christ will be where two or three are gathered together in His name.&#8221;
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&#8220;Teach us to study the work of Thy hands that we may subdue the earth to our uses, and strengthen our reason for Thy service; and so rescue Thy blessed Word, that we may believe on Him whom Thou hast sent to give us the knowledge of salvation and the remission of our sins.&#8221;
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&#8220;&#8230; I have the capacity of being more wicked than any example that man could set me, and &#8230; if I escape, it is only by God&#8217;s grace helping me to get rid of myself, partially in science, more completely in society, -but not perfectly except by committing myself to God &#8230;&#8221;
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<p>When I read about people like Maxwell it makes me sad that modern science holds religion in such contempt.  Maxwell saw perfect cohesion between his creator and the world around him.  So much good is left on the table when one or the other is villified.  He could confidently write a paper about the true structure of Saturn&#8217;s rings being made up of small solid objects(he was right by the way) and turn around and write a hymn like this:</p>
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Through the creatures Thou hast made<br />
Show the brightness of Thy glory.<br />
Be eternal truth displayed<br />
In their substance transitory.<br />
Till green earth and ocean hoary,<br />
Massy rock and tender blade,<br />
Tell the same unending story:<br />
We are truth in form arrayed.
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Teach me thus Thy works to read,<br />
That my faith,&#8211; new strength accruing&#8211;<br />
May from world to world proceed,<br />
Wisdom&#8217;s fruitful search pursuing<br />
Till, thy truth my mind imbuing,<br />
I proclaim the eternal Creed &#8211;<br />
Oft the glorious theme renewing,<br />
God our Lord is God indeed.
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<cite>&#8211;James Clerk Maxwell</cite>
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<p>For further reading about Maxwell, one of the best online resources can be found <a href="http://creationsafaris.com/wgcs_3.htm#maxwell">here</a>.  You can also check out his full biography <a href="http://www.sonnetsoftware.com/bio/maxbio.pdf">here</a>.</p>


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